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Because he was never a top guy, he doesn't understand how to draw, he doesn't understand the business.
It is easy to see where this logic comes from but it is just untrue. There are plenty or wrestlers who never drew big who understand the business just fine, same with the former talent and the agents who help bring up young guys and polish their look and promos. Sure they've never drawn a dime but they're in the business, have been for years and know what it takes to draw. Just because they never got their big break doesn't take anything away from the knowledge they've gained.
Yes but the point is not that you shouldn't have multi-man matches, it is more the way WWE handles them. Personally, I would rarely if ever have the title change hands in a multi-man match, because as you say, it makes it look like the new Champion doesn't really deserve it. One thing that should NEVER happen is the title changing hands without the Champ being pinned, such as Jeff Hardy's title win at Armageddon. This is especially true if the new Champion is a face, as Jeff obviously was. That just makes the Champ look so weak and devalues the title as well as harming them.
Multi-man title matches do serve a purpose though. For an example of how it can be done right, look no further than Wrestlemania XX. Would you say Benoit looked worse because the match he won the belt in wasn't one on one? No. He went in there with two of the best, survived double teams, made the Champion tap out and walked out with the belt.
Multi-man title matches are also good for title defences without a new Champion. I love seeing champs retain in triple threats and fatal four ways. It just makes things a bit more interesting and can actually make the Champion look better if he is able to survive in a match in which the odds are not in his favour, such as facing multiple opponents. They always put over in commentary that the Champion is at a disadvantage in such a match, and so obviously it makes him look great if he is able to survive such a situation. Title CHANGES though should usually be one on one, but not always, as the Benoit example proves.
Something which is a problem in WWE and not promotions such as ROH is the role of the heel. In ROH, they use common sense so that the Champion, whoever that may be, always looks like the best wrestler in the company. In WWE, heels are always made to look so much weaker than faces that this isn't even possible. Can you imagine a heel Champion in WWE ever looking like the undisputed best wrestler on the brand? Edge always looks like a joke, Orton always looks infinitely weaker than the likes of Triple H and John Cena because he never defeats them one on one etc. WWE seems to like giving heels title wins that they don't deserve (in kayfabe) but in reality all this does is damage the credibility of the title. There are far better ways to get heels heat than this. I am not saying heels should always win matches clean, because dirty finishes have always been a big part of mainstream wrestling, but I would say that when the heel isn't even in the same league as the face, you have a problem. The Champion should always look like the best.
I do have to agree that multi-man matches with the belt on the line can be good. I just think they should be done occasionally and with specific intent. It can work. But more often than not, it doesn't.
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Oh look, Lance Storm is saying what we've all been saying for years, in numbered list form. He stated his opinons and very good suggestions but just because he's a former wrestler doesn't make his voice any louder to the WWE or TNA. We are in a era fueled by storylines not actual wrestling. If WWE decided to follow Lance's rules, they would lose their core market (which are now kids) thus losing money. As Vince said before, he's not in the wrestling business, he's in the entertainment business.
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I guess Hulk Hogan should be the head booker then?
better than lance storm.
Hogan understood the business enough to get himself over and make himself lots and lots of money. He might not have cared about the long term future of the business once he was done but he understood it well enough.
Lance Storm might care for the business but since he doesn't understand a thing about it he's just hurting it by exposing it on his website.
have you ever been a draw? no? then i guess your opinion that lance storm knows a thing about wrestling doesn't matter either then.
So you admit your opinions and the opinions of every single wrestling fan, indy wrestler, everyone in WWE who isn't a main eventer, commentators, referees, managers and pretty much a majority of the business do not matter?
Whoever said it was right, terrible logic.
Lance Storm is exposing the business? Kayfabe is practically dead.
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I'm sure his lack of overness has nothing to do with creative and the characters they gave him. I mean he's obviously in total control of his character.
I agree with his points, but unfortunately he's telling them to the wrong people.
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wait are you saying Magic Johnson is black, has AIDS and has it better than ME?
Hogan understood the business enough to get himself over and make himself lots and lots of money. He might not have cared about the long term future of the business once he was done but he understood it well enough.
Lance Storm might care for the business but since he doesn't understand a thing about it he's just hurting it by exposing it on his website.
Would this be the same Hulk Hogan who's creative control clause in WCW did such irrevocable damage, that most people consider him one of the main reasons that the company no longer exists?
Yeah. He'd make a terrific booker.
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Hogan understood the business enough to get himself over and make himself lots and lots of money. He might not have cared about the long term future of the business once he was done but he understood it well enough.
Lance Storm might care for the business but since he doesn't understand a thing about it he's just hurting it by exposing it on his website.
Did Lance Storm fuck your mom or something? Bloody hell, man.
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