You not a REAL wrestling fan unless you've seen..

tom2cool · 04-22-2009, 02:22 PM

The Birth of the NWO at BATB 96.

Sting Vs Hogan at Starrcade 97

Rock vs Austin and TLC2 at WM 17

I'l add mroe when i Think of them.

Fizz · 04-22-2009, 02:38 PM

Yeah, Perhaps I should've worded it a little differently, consider it as:

Quintessential Viewing; Matches the define pro wrestling, whether it be

Entertainment: Hogan/Andre, Hogan/Rock
Pure Wrestling: Steamboat/Savage, McGuiness/Danielson
Strong Style: KENTA/Richards, Briscoes/Anyone
Hardcore: Yokohama Deathmatch, FMW
Cruiser/Lightweights: '94 Super J Cup, Guerrero/Mysterio Halloween Havoc

Whatever!, it's subject to person opinion, therein lies the beauty, as I said what you or I believe to be quintessential. It's not mean't to be some cock weilding "I've seen a more diverse bunch of wrestling than you, meaning I'm a real fan.."

Ease up guys.

John Smith · 04-22-2009, 02:49 PM

Funk vs. Foley from KOTDM '95

To a lesser extent you could say Shawn-Bret Iron Man, or Shawn-Razor, ladder match.

King Steventon · 04-22-2009, 03:45 PM

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Funk vs. Foley from KOTDM '95

To a lesser extent you could say Shawn-Bret Iron Man, or Shawn-Razor, ladder match.

None of those matches hold up well at all but I agree they would be considered "must-see" in the context of historical or famous matches. Also Fizz, please never ever refer to KENTA, Davey Richards, The Briscoes or anything ROH-related as "strong-style" again... please.

I wil answer this by naming a few matches that I think would be "must-see" for various companies or styles, I know it's not what the topic was directly, but meh...

All Japan: Kawada vs Misawa '94, Misawa/Kobashi vs Kawada/Taue 12/6/95

Joshi: Kong vs Toyota '94, Kong vs Satomura '01

Deathmatch: Kudo vs Toyota '96, Sasaki vs Miyamoto '07

CHIKARA: Hero/Castagnoli vs Milano/Skayde WTGP'06, Olsen vs Gerrard ladder match

Lucha libre: Santo vs Park '00, Atlantis vs Vilano III '00, Santo vs Casas '97

Dragon Gate/Toryumon: Do Fixer vs Blood Gen from ROH), Do Fixer vs Sekigun '03

ECW: Corino vs Tajiri '00, Crazy vs Tajiri, Lynn vs RVD III, Awesome vs Tanaka series

New Japan/Strong-style: Liger vs Sano '89, Hashimoto vs Hase '94, Ohtani vs Ultimo '96, Sasuke vs Liger '94, Samurai vs Kanemoto '97

NOAH: GoBashi vs Kensuke Office, Burning vs Sterness 6/6/03

WCW: Sting vs Flair '89, Flair vs Steamboat trilogy, Wargames 1

Shoot-style: Han vs Tamura '97, Funaki vs Anjo '89

ROH: Gen Next vs Embassy Steel cage Warfare, Whitmer vs Jacobs Cage match, Danielson vs Nigel - Driven, Joe vs Ki GBH1

TNA: Styles vs Joe, Unbreakable triple threat

WWE: Hart vs Austin Submission match, Austin vs Rock WMX7

John Smith · 04-22-2009, 04:02 PM

None held up atall well? Cactus & Terry reeked of awersomeness.

ECW, that reminds me; the original three way dance of '94 is held in this sort of high regard in wrestling, even though i've only seen clips of it.

King Steventon · 04-22-2009, 04:07 PM

Cactus/Terry was alright nothing special, pretty much your standard garbage-y deathmatch with no psycology and alot of violence, only some of the spots, like the finish were more spectacular.

What three-way dance are you refering to?

John Smith · 04-22-2009, 04:08 PM

Why Sabu, Terry & Douglas of course.

Would you expect spectacular spots after they wrestled 2 brutal matches?

King Steventon · 04-22-2009, 04:09 PM

Havent seen it though I think I've read stuff about it here and there. What was famous about it?

John Smith · 04-22-2009, 04:13 PM

Well it's sort of the match that made/revolutionised ECW, along with Douglas p*ssing on the World Heavyweight belt.

Hogan-Warrior is also held in rather high regard, although again to a lesser extent, but it was the highlight of Warriors career.

Bigpapa42 · 04-22-2009, 04:25 PM

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Yeah, Perhaps I should've worded it a little differently, consider it as:

Quintessential Viewing; Matches the define pro wrestling, whether it be

Entertainment: Hogan/Andre, Hogan/Rock
Pure Wrestling: Steamboat/Savage, McGuiness/Danielson
Strong Style: KENTA/Richards, Briscoes/Anyone
Hardcore: Yokohama Deathmatch, FMW
Cruiser/Lightweights: '94 Super J Cup, Guerrero/Mysterio Halloween Havoc

Whatever!, it's subject to person opinion, therein lies the beauty, as I said what you or I believe to be quintessential. It's not mean't to be some cock weilding "I've seen a more diverse bunch of wrestling than you, meaning I'm a real fan.."

Ease up guys.

Wasn't trying to be a jerk, just that the idea of being a "real" fan is pretty open to interpretation and its the kind of sentiment that some can take offense to. I have a friend who is a dedicated WWE fan but he never has and never likely will take any interest in anything outside of the E - you might call him more a WWE fan than a pro wrestling fan, but you'd have a hard time convincing him of that, as I've tried. And there are some "newer" fans who don't really care much about the history of the business and matches that occured 20 or 30 years ago. I don't really agree with that approach, but not everyone has an open appreciation.

Its the kind of debate you can have about fandom of any sport or form of entertainment. Personally, I think being a "true" and "knowledgable" fan means having some understanding and knowledge of what pro wrestling as a whole offers. Doesn't mean you have to be an "expert" on everything or love it all, just to have seen enough to understand what something like puro is.

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