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Old 04-15-2009, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker



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Dragon or Undertaker, who is the better wrestler?

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Old 04-15-2009, 10:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

Two points to consider before voting:

- How long did it take Undertaker to become good?

- How many bad matches has Danielson had comepared to Undertaker?




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Old 04-15-2009, 02:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

Also are we talking about a Taker that's in his prime?
Regardless both men would make eachother look like gold in this match. I'd have to go with Taker. He has a definite size advantage which should account for somthing, plus he can brawl with the best of them and he has a a variety of submissions, as does Danielson, so they cancel eachother out. Combine that with his power and a high tolerance for pain, I gotta pick Taker.

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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

Originally Posted by Lord Steventon View Post
Two points to consider before voting:

- How long did it take Undertaker to become good?

- How many bad matches has Danielson had comepared to Undertaker?

Another point to consider: How long has Danielson's style been restricted by a gimmick?





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Old 04-15-2009, 02:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

Originally Posted by The Brain View Post
Another point to consider: How long has Danielson's style been restricted by a gimmick?

Another point to consider: Why would that matter when 'Taker has shown he can put on high quality matches?
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

Since when has Undertaker been restricted?




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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

Originally Posted by Lord Steventon View Post
Since when has Undertaker been restricted?

Look at his first few years in the E. He had to work a particular style based on the zombie gimmick. Mean Mark had a different style, ABA had a different style, and the new deadman has a different style. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Danielson seems to have had more freedom to do what he wants for more of his career.





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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

Originally Posted by E-weezie View Post
Also are we talking about a Taker that's in his prime?
Regardless both men would make eachother look like gold in this match. I'd have to go with Taker. He has a definite size advantage which should account for somthing, plus he can brawl with the best of them and he has a a variety of submissions, as does Danielson, so they cancel eachother out. Combine that with his power and a high tolerance for pain, I gotta pick Taker.

Go ahead flame me.

We're not talking kayfabe. We mean, who has put on the better matches during their careers?
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

You could make the point that Taker hasn't had the calibre of opponents Danielson has but if you look at his early career you will see Taker himself was actually pretty mediocre too. Ever since the late 90's the gimmick hasn't restricted him at all... he hasn't been tied down to wrestling one style and he hasn't been restriced to inferior opponents or short matches or anything.

If people are going to start the "Undertaker hasn't had the oppotunities Danielson has" line like they did with HBK, I am seriosuly going to laugh because that is just fucking ridiculous.




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Re: Bryan Danielson vs The World: The Undertaker

The opportunities argument is so illogical anyway. It's like basing your argument on something that never happened and just assuming someone is great.

I'm not directing this at 'Taker, just saying.
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