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- Yokozuna
Good big man who was able to do the little things right to make sure you hated him.

- Lance Storm
Average wrestler with zero charisma who now spends his time crying about everything and anything.

- Hernandez
Potential is there especilly as a heel. He needs to work on his babyface caracter though.

- Multi-man tag matches
Depending on who is in it and how important the match is they can range from dull as fuck with too many people to great entertainment.

- Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard
Proof that Japan can make an average wrestler a good wrestler.

- Steel Cage Matches
Overused. I dont like the current make either. I prefered the solid bars as they really looked like they would hurt.

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Originally Posted by Lord Steventon View Post
- Yokozuna

- Lance Storm

- Hernandez

- Multi-man tag matches

- Tully Blanchard

- Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard

- Steel Cage Matches

- Jimmy Rave

- Chris Jericho

yokozuna - Only know him from WM 9, where hogan stole his spot light. seemed like a good heel

lance storm - good wrestler, zero charisma

Hernandez - very good asset for tna, love how he can suicide dive over the top rope for such a big guy

steel cage matches - boring. havnt seen a highly entertaining one since eddie vs jbl in 04. Never any good bumps in them, obviously when thrown into the cage it doesnt hurt, you rarely get the cage involved in alot of the recent ones anyway

Chris Jehricho - Great Heel. I love his cocky persona he use to have in wcw, shame they didnt run with him there where he was at his best in terms of a character ( imo )

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- Steel Cage Matches
Overused. I dont like the current make either. I prefered the solid bars as they really looked like they would hurt.

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- Yokozuna: Underrated big man. He could do everything in the ring and was great at being a heel. He can give Vader a run for his money as the best monster heel ever.

- Lance Storm: A somehow overrated and average wrestler, but who was always a solid mid-carder and should've been given more opportunities to get over (WWE wise at least, cause he really had it going for him in ECW and WCW). And last but not least, fun rants to read from time to time =).

- Hernandez: Great talent, I see a singles push on the not-so far future.

- Multi-man tag matches. Love them =). What can I say? I'm Mexican, they've been a huge part of lucha libre since the late 60's. And as far as more storyline oriented wrestling, they are a way to keep feuds fresh, renew them, and make new ones.

- Tully Blanchard: One of my favorite old timers, everything a wrestler should be.

- Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard: Has improved beyond everything I always had pictured him. Sounds cliche, but just an example of what Japan can do for you

- Steel Cage Matches:They've made them into a joke now, when they're done right, it's just the perfect end to any feud.

- Jimmy Rave: I don't see the magic I once did, lack of motivation? ROH suits him best, he can't do promos

- Chris Jericho: Before his return, was one of my favorites of all-time, after, he's probably an undisputed #1. He's been great to good both on the mic and in ring for more than 10 years now. Just an all-around wrestler who's finally gettin' his due IMHO.
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- Yokozuna
Would've been better had I not been told he wasn't Japanese

- Lance Storm
Pretty good worker, entertaining now, surprising as he was dull as hell when he wrestled

- Hernandez
Don't care enough to have an opinion

- Multi-man tag matches
When done right, are great. Unfortunately, not done right enough.

- Tully Blanchard
I thought he was underutilized, but I expect Jim to correct me on that.

- Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard
Still mehtastic in my mind.

- Steel Cage Matches
One of those things that's become incredibly lackluster and meaningless with time.

- Jimmy Rave
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I'm surprised this has reached the 10th Thought Mark already for this type of thread. Good job Steve.

Yokozuna- I always thought of him as one of the Best Big men in the business during his time for his size. He was very agile which was unique for somebody that rotund and for Yoko to do all the little things that made people appreciate the foreign heel, he did it well enough that he was one of the few people that stood out during that darkened time period of wrestling for the WWF and was a prominent fixture because of who he worked with. It's a shame that he passed on way too soon.

Lance Storm- Always very opinionated and with good reasoning because he's been there and been involved in the business. I'm sure he may come off as sour in some respects but to me, Storm always validated his opinions with logic and reasoning that pointed everything out. He was a skilled technician inside the ring but what did you expect, the Hart's never trained people on Charisma but rather inring skills.

Hernandez- Often underutilized for his size and held down because LAX isn't focused on enough. Was consistently a force with Homicide when Konan was around but I can't take him seriously enough unless he turns on Homicide and LAX goes their separate ways.

Multi-man tag matches- Like everybody else When done right and you have a circumstance of people teaming with partners who usually they don't get along with or wouldn't team with, it's excellent but when the team has no chemistry or just doesn't mesh well overall, it can quickly turn into a mess.

Tully Blanchard- One of the best smaller sized workers that the 80's could have ever produced. Sure, it helped working with Ric Flair and Arn Anderson but Tully had all the talents that got it done inside the ring. He just took his party to a whole nother level outside of the ring that really prevented him from becoming a True World Champion.

Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard- Simple proof that a little time in Japan can make any average wrestler good. Seasoning can help anybody out and for his size, he's done a fantastic job over there being one of the more popular and talented Gaijins in the land of the rising Sun. I think if he wanted to go back to the WWE or get involved with TNA, I can really easily see him being back as a main player for either company because of his time in Japan.

Steel Cage Matches- While people may sour on this and hate it, I like Steel Cage matches and to me can never be to overdone. If it happens three times in a week then I can start getting a little tired of it but to understand the toll that a stell cage matches takes on the body, it does alot of damage which for psychological reasons works so well for professional wrestling. To me, a steel cage match is one of the best gimmick matches wrestling can have.

Jimmy Rave- One of the more talented workers who didn't get a fair push in TNA. In ROH, Cary and Gabe noticed the young talent he had and made him a key player in the Embassy and now that he has returned to ROH, I can only see bright things to come for Mr. Rave. Maybe a possible feud with Tyler Black in the main event picture. One talented individual who TNA really missed the ball on.

Chris Jericho- One of the best heel's in wrestling today. The transition that Jericho has been able to make really has shown the great detail that Jericho has utilized to his advantage in making him one of the best talents in wrestling today. He's crafty enough that he will do just about anything to try and get underneath your skin and can push all the right buttons to make his matches clique. Even in this upcomming segment at WrestleMania 25 and the Legends, to me I think it's entertaining because of how well Jericho has been able to play his part. Sure, it may be predictable but it's enjoyable in the sense that you can tell how well Jericho has been able to do given the circumstances and the talent he's been involved with. It also doesn't hurt to be seen with Kelly Kelly either.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->





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- Yokozuna
Need to see more, seems pretty useless from what little I've seen.

- Lance Storm
Solid wrestler rarely put in the position to showcase his ability as he should have. Overated to an extent simply because he was a good mat technician, though ironically his lack of charisma is actually one of his biggest appeals for me. Best match of his career was against Danielson, that match was AMAZING. Clearly has a great mind for the business.

- Hernandez
I enjoy him more than Homicide these days. Quality big man who can brawl and is insanly agile for his size.

- Multi-man tag matches
Underutalized to the fucking max. You get six great wrestlers in the ring and give them 30 minutes or so, you should get greatness. The Invasion angle matches were cases in what-not-to-do in them though.

- Tully Blanchard
Awesome heel who gets overlooked by today's fans. His cage match with Magnum is one of the my favourite matches ever.

- Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard
Underated in the wwe, Japan helped him develop his style though and he's pretty great.

- Steel Cage Matches
Whored out to the moon. Can be a great fued ender, but yeah, pretty useless these days.

- Jimmy Rave
Best indy heel of the decade? He's certainly up there. Not an amazing wrestler but I've always had a soft spot for him because he's such a hatable prick.

- Chris Jericho
Good wrestler, heck, a great wrestler, but never really given the chance to be used to his full potential. Everytime he seemed to have a high point in his career he'd be bunked down again. Definately one of the most misused wrestlers of the decade.




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- Yokozuna
Talented big man. Had he kept his weight down, he could of done far more in wrestling. However, he showed his talent by putting on watchable matches (Note: I did not say good) at his heaviest. Meanwhile, people half his size could even come close to that. Terribly booked on PPV when he needed to be booked the best. Favorite match would have to be against Bret Hart inside of a steel cage. Surprisingly good.

- Lance Storm
Severely underrated. It looked as if he had a very bright future in WCW at the time of the demise. Truthfully, I don't think a WCW World Championship would of been out of his reach by late 2001/early 2002. Badly misused in the WWE. Even with being booked to do nothing, Storm put up some good matches. Maybe had he been treated better, he would of stuck around. His two post-WWE matches (One Night Stand and ROH's Better Than Our Best) remains two of his better matches in years. His blogs and reviews has revealed a new side to Lance that we as fans never got to see. I do laugh at the people who bash Storm for his blogs when he's not doing anything different than what we (The entire IWC) is doing. But I suppose pointing out the obvious flaws in a company some people like will get some haters. Had Chris Jericho's book been a novel, Storm would of been my favorite sub character. Just the complete honesty at all times was hysterical.

- Hernandez
Hernandez's arrival in TNA came at a point where my interest started to decline in the company. As a result, I haven't seen much of him in recent years. However, from his stint in ROH, he is amazingly agile for a guy his size and has an entertaining mix of typical big man mixed with a high flier. He's a guy who if I had him in my promotion, I'd consider making him one of the bigger stars.

- Multi-man tag matches
More often than not, I'm bored by them. Most of them just ends up being a clusterfuck lacking all story telling. There has been a few I have enjoyed, but typically when I hear a multi-man tag match is booked, I'm turned off.

- Tully Blanchard
One of the most talented workers of the 1980's. He was by far one of the best reasons to watch JCP in the mid 80's and one half of the main reason to watch the WWE in late '88 and 1989. I firmly believe that had the Crocketts not had Flair, Blanchard would of been the obvious pick to be the top heel. Sadly, in one moment, he fucked his entire career up. I do wonder what would of happened had Blanchard known about the drug test before hand.

- Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard
I'm not even sure if I've seen any of his Japan matches. However, even in the WWE, Bloom showed a hint of talent just waiting to be let out. The only problem was that Bloom never really let it out. If he's as good as people claim he is now, then that's great. It's terrible to see a wrestler not live up to their potential.

- Steel Cage Matches
At one time, the ultimate feud ender. However, the rise of putting on lackluster matches, the introduction of Hell in a Cell and the general feeling the steel cage matches no longer need to be put in major matches, the match has really dropped in quality. No matter how bad the steel cage match has become, it's past of Blanchard vs Magnum TA, Rude vs Piper, Hart vs Hart, Rock 'n' Roll Express vs Andersons, Hogan vs Boss Man and Triple X vs AMW can show just how great a cage match can be.

- Jimmy Rave
Rave was a great heel in ROH. The whole toilet paper entrance makes Rave have one of the more memorable entrances in history. Matchwise, he really varied in quality. Most of the time he was average, not bad, but just couldn't compare to some of the other major stars of ROH history.

- Chris Jericho
Incredibly overrated. He's great on the mic and can be good in the ring, however; he's not the god his fans make him out to be. When it comes to the ring, he's hit or miss. He has been poorly booked since coming to the WWE in 1999. The whole 'Push and abrupt stop' has hurt him so much. I no longer take him serious as a main eventer because of that. His Wrestlemania match alone shows how the WWE feels about him.




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- Yokozuna

My memory had turned him into just another generic big man. But after going back and rewatching the entire run of Wrestle Mania and Royal Rumble in the past few months, I realized he was better than I remembered. Much better.

- Lance Storm

A guy I really expect. Always kind liked him back in the day - the lack of charisma thing just kinda worked for him. Now, in regards to his commentary blogs, I respect his opinion more than most. Unlike the average fan out there, his opinions should carry a bit more weight given his history in the business.

- Hernandez

Untapped potential, but I'm not sure I would see him as a guy who could carry TNA, as some people seem to think.

- Multi-man tag matches

Done very well in Japan, but they can be so varied in quality in American promotions.

- Tully Blanchard

Under appreciated in some ways. Good worker, great character, and had some very memorable matches and feuds. That more than most wrestlers can claim about their entire careers.

- Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard

I've only seen so much of his recent stuff from Japan, but if I didn't know it was the same guy as from the E, I probably wouldn't connect the dots. Seems like a much different wrestler.

- Steel Cage Matches

I miss the days when they were a proper way to end a feud.

- Jimmy Rave

Have only seen so much, but he seems like a great character for ROH.

- Chris Jericho

I'm a fan, but I'm a realistic one. Really good worker, but not the best. Very good on the mic, but I often find his promos entertaining yet repetitive. In all the build-up to this stupid WM match, he seemed to do the same promo over and over. Yes it was a good promo every time, but I kept thinking "Is this the same script as last week"?




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