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With Hardy vs Hardy announced for this year's Wrestlemania following Matt's shocking attack on his own flesh and blood, I was thinking of all the other family feuds we have seen over the years. I am sure others will mention ones I am forgetting, but the ones that spring to mind for me are:
Edge vs Christian in 2001.
Kane vs The Undertaker
The McMahon Family (Including Father vs Son and even Father vs Daughter To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. )
Bret Hart vs Owen Hart
British Bulldog vs Bret Hart (Brother In Laws)
Usually these feuds are brother vs brother, but as seen, there are exceptions.
Firstly, can you think of any more?
Secondly, what do you think of family feuds in wrestling in general? (Either real family or kayfabe relatives).
And lastly, what is your favorite family feud of all time?
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Family feuds are some of the easiest booked feuds imaginable. Anyone who has a sibling knows what it's like to have that sibling rivalry. As for other family feuds:
Mark Briscoe vs Jay Briscoe (ROH 2002) - It's such a standby feud that ROH chose to have one of their very first feuds be just that. Since Mark wasn't old enough to wrestle in Pennsylvania (Where ROH had most of their shows in year 1), he just acted as Jay's manager. From the first show, Jay started losing all the time. Mark kept getting on his case until Jay finally had it.
Booker T vs Stevie Ray and Harlem Heat 2000 (WCW 1999) - After their second falling out, Stevie Ray brought in Ahmed Johnson (Big T) and Clarence Mason (J Biggs) as his manager, Stevie Ray tried to ruin the career of Booker. This great feud saw Booker T legally unable to use the 'T' and could no longer use the Harlem Heat music. The answer? GI Bro. *Shutters*
Eddy Guerrero vs Chavo Jr. and Hector Guerrero (WCW 1998) - Years before Chavo would bring in his father to try and get the best out of his uncle, Eddy was the heel. Every week, Eddy would try and force Chavo to lie, cheat and steal (The beginning of that whole gimmick). Hector, who was a jobber, tried helping out the youngest Guerrero without much luck. Highlight of the feud was when Chavo lost a hair vs hair match, but he insisted on shaving his own head. Much better than the WWE feud.
Bubba Ray Dudley vs Reverend D-Von and Deacon Batista (WWE 2002) - After the split-up of the Dudleys thanks to the draft, one had to wonder if they'd ever meet up again due to Bubba turning face and D-Von changing gimmicks. After a brief meet-up at Backlash, they met again during the Women's title match at Judgment Day (Raw's Trish Stratus vs Smackdown's Stacey). While Bubba's diva won, he was laid out thanks to his brother and the future 'Animal'. For whatever reason, nothing else happened in the feud.
Spike Dudley vs The Damn Dudley Boyz (ECW/WWE 1998-2004) - A family feud so feirce that it stretched over two different decades and companies. The idea was simple, Spike was the fan favorite who couldn't do a bad thing if his life depended on it. Meanwhile, Bubba and D-Von were bipolar in that they kept switching between bad and good. Whenever they were bad, they went after the runt of the Dudley litter. Their ECW feud came to an end when The Dudleys defeated Spike and Balls Mahoney for the ECW Tag Team Titles on their final night (They'd later lose the belts to Tommy Dreamer and the returning Raven). Once Spike came to the WWE in 2001, all was forgiven. Everything seemed to be going well until Spike played the role of Romeo in his forbidden love with The Holly's Molly Holly. The Dudley's turned heel and broke Spike's leg in the summer of 2001. Once Bubba turned face in 2002, Spike and Bubba mended the fences thanks to being champions in the WWE (Bubba was Hardcore while Spike was European). After they both lost their belts, they'd team off and on in their attempts at winning the tag team titles. Once D-Von came back, Spike was sent back down to Heat. In 2004, the three Dudley's would find themselves on Smackdown. The Dudleys quickly became heels again and begged their brother to let them help him win. It seemed as if The Dudleys, without permission, had helped Spike become Crusierweight Champion by defeating Rey Mysterio on Smackdown. That's when the shocking revelation was revealed that Spike knew about it and was now 'The Boss' in the Dudleys. This would continue up until The Dudley Boyz were written off of TV in fall of that year to rest up from injures.
Rick Steiner vs Scott Steiner (WCW 1998) - All was good for the Steiners in the beginning of 1998. They had proven on countless nights that they were better than the Outsiders. As the opening months unfolded, The Steiners traded the belts back and forth with the Outsiders. At Superbrawl, the unthinkable happened when Scott attacked his brother and joined up with the nWo. The newly rechristened 'White Lightning' (Quickly replaced with 'Big Poppa Pump' name) tried proving that he had carried the team with Rick for years. I seem to remember some false matches on PPV, but I can't remember if anything was actually settled in the feud. Along with the Outsider feud, neither could seem to get a match where one member would win and just end the feud. Anyways, things would be smoothed out once Rick turned heel in the summer of 1999.
Kevin Sullivan vs Dave Sullivan (WCW 1994) - My memory over this entire feud is fuzzy, but Kevin played the role of the bossy older brother to Dave (Named 'Evad' since Dave was supposed to be dyslexic). Dave just wanted to have fun with the fans, but Kevin wouldn't hear any of it. Once Hulk Hogan came into the company, Evad joined up with Hogan and company (Sting and eventually Savage). I can remember the two fighting in a six man tag (3 Faces of Fear of Sullivan, Earthquake and Brutus vs Sting, Hogan and Evad), but I can't remember any specifics of how the feud ended. Not that it mattered, Evad was horrible.
Carlito vs Primo Colon (Raw 2008) - Primo made his WWE debut by running down Carlito (Who was no longer even on Raw). Primo made it clear that he was the superior Colon. This whole feud suffered from the fact that it was totally one-sided. Carlito wasn't even back on television. Within weeks, Primo disappeared only to show up on Smackdown teaming with Carlito.
Crash Holly vs Hardcore Holly (WWF 1999) - Once Bob brought in his younger cousin, Crash, his career seemed to take off. Both Holly's believed that they were much bigger than in reality (They even called themselves super heavyweights and refused to face anyone who wasn't also). However, they also shared the trait of loving to fight. Many episodes of Raw and Smackdown saw the Holly cousins fighting each other up until someone attacked one of them. When that happened, the Hollys would team up again.
Ken Shamrock vs Ryan Shamrock (WWF 1999) - Ken was the ultimate hothead, meanwhile, younger sister Ryan, was the ultimate slut. Once Ken caught wind of everyone "Getting to know" his little sister, he fought them. Things didn't help once Ryan would take the side of anyone but her brother.
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I knew there were a lot I had forgotten/didn't know about, but I was expecting Jim to dig some up from the 80s. Is it a relatively new thing to have two family members feud? I always thought it was one of those things which had always been a part of wrestling.
I like family feuds anyway. I think as Jim said, it is easy to identify with, and is a great way to creating very personal feuds, and usually getting the heel a lot of heat for attacking his own flesh and blood.
As for my favourite: Owen/Bret in terms of match quality and Kane/Taker in terms of the angle. Although it was ridiculously over the top at times. It is extremely memorable and was a great way to bring Kane in.
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Carlito vs Primo Colon (Raw 2008) - Primo made his WWE debut by running down Carlito (Who was no longer even on Raw). Primo made it clear that he was the superior Colon. This whole feud suffered from the fact that it was totally one-sided. Carlito wasn't even back on television. Within weeks, Primo disappeared only to show up on Smackdown teaming with Carlito.
I only remember Primo actually being on Raw once during the Summer of last year on TV and then in August, I saw him as a babyface in a pretty good match against William Regal at MSG at a WWE House Show.
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The Sandman vs The Sandman's family and Raven (ECW 1996) - While feuds happen all the time, rarely is the family of one of the wrestlers involved. However, in 1996, ECW not only brought The Sandman's family into the company, they had them turn on him. At first, it was just Sandman's wife, Lori Fullington. However, in one shocking moment, the Sandman's young son raised his arms up in the cross/Raven taunt and pledged his allegiance to Raven.
Ric Flair vs Arn Anderson (WCW 1995) - After years of being Flair's back-up, Anderson had enough of it. Thus the short lived feud over respect began. Anderson would enlist in the help of heel, Brian Pillman to force Flair to feel what it was like to be outnumbered for the first time in his career. Eventually, Flair would bring in his on again partner and rival, Sting. In the end, Flair and Anderson mended their problems and attacked Sting. Along with Pillman (And eventually Chris Benoit), the Four Horsemen were reestablished. While many may know of the feud, what is lesser known is the fact that early on in Flair's career, he was said to be the cousin of the Anderson clan. While WCW no longer mentioned that by 1995, it remains a loose family feud.
BG James vs Bob Armstrong (TNA 2003) - In the midst of the S.E.X. vs Tradition feud of TNA, this father and son pair found themselves on opposite sides. Several times the difference in opinions would result in fighting. Eventually things were smoothed out with the father and son teaming together a few years later.
Rocky Maivia/The Rock vs The Sultan/Rikishi (WWF 1997/2000) - In the early days of the Rock's career, he was a generic babyface getting a large push. For Wrestlemania 13, he was booked in a forgettable feud against the Sultan. The Sultan in reality was Rikishi. While it's debatable, every Samoan in wrestling is related or at least that's what they claim. So WM 13 really featured a cousin vs cousin match. The two would feud again in 2000 after Rikishi revealed he ran Austin down for the Rock. Once again, the feud was a bomb. Sadly, it's not as easily forgotten as their first.
Ric Flair and Reid Flair vs David Flair (WCW 2000) - In a true sign that WCW was failing, David Flair recieved a large push near the end by turning on his father. David would turn to Vince Russo as his new father figure. To even the odds, Ric brought in his young son, Reid, to compete in some tag team matches. In perhaps the most memorable moment in the feud, David took Russo to the Flair home for a tour. There wasn't enough wooo's in the world to make this feud good.
Kimberly vs DDP (WCW 2000) - Near the end of Kimberly's run in WCW, she turned heel by joining with...you guessed it, Vince Russo in terrorizing DDP. It was your typical feud with Kimberly taking credit for all of Page's success and was mostly a disappointment.
Sable vs Mark Mero (WWF 1997/1998) - When Mero started revealing a new more heel side to his persona following knee surgery in 1997, he began becoming upset with how over Sable was becoming. Things continued to brew until Sable had enough of Mero's abuse and turned on her real-life (Then) husband. On PPV, Mero would defeat Sable forcing her out of the WWF. IIRC, that lasted about a day. Once Mero brought in Jackie as his new valet, the Sable feud would continue. The feud pretty much ended once Sable turned heel and could no longer wrestle Jackie.
Davey Boy Smith vs Owen Hart (WWF 1996/1997) - While tag team champions, Davey Boy Smith and brother-in-law, Owen Hart, began to feel some friction stemming from Owen's need to be at the center of attention. Once the European title was introduced, the problems only escalated as Davey Boy cleanly defeated Owen. It looked as if Bulldog was going to turn face and officially feud with Owen. However, on an episode of Raw where a friendly match turned intense, Bret Hart came out and broke it up. Following Bret's speech, all problems were resolved and the Harts were united once more.
The British Bulldogs vs The Hart Foundation (WWF 1986-1988) - While Bret Hart and Davey Boy Smith were involved in one of the better known family feuds in the 1990's, the original feud occurred in the 80's. Unlike in 1992, the family ties were a lot more crossed. By 1984, Davey Boy Smith married Diana Hart, Bret's sister. So Davey Boy and Bret are brother-in-laws. Meanwhile, Neidhart married the eldest Hart daughter, Ellie, thus making Bret his brother-in-law and Davey Boy his brother-in-law by marriage. Meanwhile Dynamite Kid was Davey Boy's cousin. So now, Dynamite is loosely related by marriage to Diana, who is related by blood to Bret and Ellie, who is married to Neidhart. To top it off, Dynamite eventually married Bret Hart's wife's younger sister, thus making Julie Hart (Bret's wife) his sister-in-law. So now, Dynamite is Bret's brother-in-law by marriage while also being the cousin of Bret's brother-in-law by marriage, Davey Boy. While all of this confusing marrying and cross relation was occurring, the WWE choose not to mention any of it. To my knowledge, they didn't even admit that Bret and Jim were related by marriage or Davey Boy and Dyno were cousins.
Dynamite Kid vs Davey Boy Smith (Stampede 1988) - After leaving the WWE, The Bulldogs went back to Stampede wrestling. Once there, Dynamite Kid turned on his cousin which started a short lived feud. On Youtube, you can find an interview by Dynamite around that time in which he calls Davey Boy a test tube baby. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Davey Boy Smith vs Johnny Smith (Stampede 1989) - With the success of Davey Boy, Stu Hart decided to bring in another "Smith" to team with Bulldog. To be expected, Johnny turned on his "Relative", thus starting the feud.
Tyson Kidd vs DH Smith (FCW 2009) - While technically not a Smith or a Hart, TJ Wilson has been with the Harts for years and is currently engaged to Natalya Neidhart. As Kidd gets more and more airtime on ECW, he's been finishing his FCW commitments by turning on his longtime partner, Harry Smith. The feud is still going on.
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I love family fueds. They are really easy to get into, as has already been said, and almost impossible to fuck up booking wise as the history is their to be tweaked.
Wasn't Rowdy Roddy Piper once said to be Bret Hart's cousin when they were fueding over the IC title? And I'm pretty certain Jim Neidhart was said to be Bret's cousin back in the day to, although I don't think they ever had a fued.
And how about Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio in the fued over custody of Dominic, Rey's son. Eddie revealed he was Dominic's "papi" and the real-life friends had a pretty long and intense fued over the whole thing if I remember correctly... I'd say that counts as a family fued to. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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