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Do you believe in a life after this one? I'm talking for all of us. ...
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Do you believe in a life after this one? I'm talking for all of us. Not some reincarnation where you take another body, but a place where all the good people being dead or alive will reunite .
If you do believe in another life after this one, where do you believe it will be? Will it be in this same world ? What do you think you'll be doing in it? Will it be a perfect one or will this one never have an ending?
Humans pretty much act like this life is the only one that exist. Some say they believe in another life, but by their actions they prove other wise. They live this life like it was their last. So if you trully believe in another life how do you imagine it to be or do you feel it's a mystery?
I do believe in an after life. The soul of any human will never die. There is life after death, the question is where you will spend it.
I believe in the Christian view layed out in the Bible. Heaven will be the resting place of the people who believe in God and serve him throughout their life.
Hell will be those for who do not.
Of course it is never that simple and no one but God (The Supreme Being, not the poster who refers to himself as "God" on here) can judge each person individually.
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There'll be no sorrow there, no more burdens to bear,
No more sickness, no more pain, no more parting over there;
And forever I will be with the One who died for me,
What a day, glorious day that will be.
I do believe in an after life. The soul of any human will never die. There is life after death, the question is where you will spend it.
I believe in the Christian view layed out in the Bible. Heaven will be the resting place of the people who believe in God and serve him throughout their life.
Hell will be those for who do not.
Of course it is never that simple and no one but God (The Supreme Being, not the poster who refers to himself as "God" on here) can judge each person individually.
From what I've read in the bible and been taught that's not true.
It's if you live a good life you will be rewarded, you do not have to believe in God as long as you live piously and are a good person, by your standard Gandhi wouldn't be allowed in heaven because he was Hindu. From what I know of the bible (which has slowly eroded because of me not caring so much anymore) is that like I said before you live a good life you are rewarded no matter what your faith.
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From what I've read in the bible and been taught that's not true.
It's if you live a good life you will be rewarded, you do not have to believe in God as long as you live piously and are a good person, by your standard Gandhi wouldn't be allowed in heaven because he was Hindu. From what I know of the bible (which has slowly eroded because of me not caring so much anymore) is that like I said before you live a good life you are rewarded no matter what your faith.
That is not my understanding at all.
Just living a "good life" will not get you into heaven.
Here are some verses to back my view up.
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Originally Posted by The Holy Bible
Romans 9 & 10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 13 & 14
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
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There'll be no sorrow there, no more burdens to bear,
No more sickness, no more pain, no more parting over there;
And forever I will be with the One who died for me,
What a day, glorious day that will be.
Well those quotes you got were from Romans, not from what Jesus said. Paul's letters were pretty much propaganda. But that's not what we are arguing so it doesn't matter.
So what about those tribes that haven't even heard of Jesus like the natives of South America they have had no chance in their lives to hear about Jesus so they go to hell merely because they haven't been taught about the bible...
That doesn't make sense.
I've always read the Gospels as Jesus teaching people to be kind basically the "love thy neighbour" message and that alone is all you need to get to heaven. Because you're excluding Gandhi from your heaven and he's a better man in all aspects than 99% of christians.
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So what about those tribes that haven't even heard of Jesus like the natives of South America they have had no chance in their lives to hear about Jesus so they go to hell merely because they haven't been taught about the bible...
That doesn't make sense.
I've always read the Gospels as Jesus teaching people to be kind basically the "love thy neighbour" message and that alone is all you need to get to heaven. Because you're excluding Gandhi from your heaven and he's a better man in all aspects than 99% of christians.
Like I said, I cannot judge anyone. Only God can judge people and I cannot speculate on how we are to be judged.
All I know is what the Bible says and I cannot believe that parts of it is untrue. You believe the whole Bible or none of it in my opinion.
I don't believe it only matters that someone "lived a good life". I don't drink, I don't smoke, I will not have pre-marital sex...etc. Does that mean I automatically make it into heaven?
No.
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There'll be no sorrow there, no more burdens to bear,
No more sickness, no more pain, no more parting over there;
And forever I will be with the One who died for me,
What a day, glorious day that will be.
So you believe in slavery? And that eating shellfish is an abomination...and that stoning a women is ok for audultery but not a man...
But I don't really care if there is a after life I want to live life how I deep fit, if that involves drinking and smoking so be it, I have one life and I want to live it as to have the most fun, doesn't mean I'm going to run around sleeping with every broad I see and pillaging I just don't want to do thigns I don't like.
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So you believe in slavery? And that eating shellfish is an abomination...and that stoning a women is ok for audultery but not a man...
But I don't really care if there is a after life I want to live life how I deep fit, if that involves drinking and smoking so be it, I have one life and I want to live it as to have the most fun, doesn't mean I'm going to run around sleeping with every broad I see and pillaging I just don't want to do thigns I don't like.
I feel that God has told us plainly through his word we cannot do those things and get into heaven.
You can't just live by the motto: "If it feels good, do it."
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There'll be no sorrow there, no more burdens to bear,
No more sickness, no more pain, no more parting over there;
And forever I will be with the One who died for me,
What a day, glorious day that will be.
Yes I can...it makes me happy that's what matters to me.
And please answer my question do you eat shellfish? do you practise slavery? do you believe in stoning a women to death for audultery (but not the man)? all things in the bible, I'm just saying, believe it all or none at all.
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Yes I can...it makes me happy that's what matters to me.
And please answer my question do you eat shellfish? do you practise slavery? do you believe in stoning a women to death for audultery (but not the man)? all things in the bible, I'm just saying, believe it all or none at all.
All of these things you mention are from the old testament.
When Christ died on the cross a New Covenant was manifested which superseded the past Covenants in the old testament.
Does that mean that all of the Old Testament is voided because of the New Covenant?
No.
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There'll be no sorrow there, no more burdens to bear,
No more sickness, no more pain, no more parting over there;
And forever I will be with the One who died for me,
What a day, glorious day that will be.
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