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Old 10-06-2008, 01:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What do you guys think of this? Found it sort of weird.

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Old 10-06-2008, 01:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Teens Pledge Allegiance To Obama...

Kinda reminds me of something you would see in North Korea or something.....

Weird.
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Teens Pledge Allegiance To Obama...

At least the kids are informed lol.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Teens Pledge Allegiance To Obama...

Granted the leader they are "pledging" to has generally good politics.. and what they are standing for is a good cause, this is like some crappy Hitler youth crossed with Jonestown Massacre.

I think it's crazy that some people worship Obama...and others think he's the antichrist.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only who's voting for him that's sane.


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Old 10-06-2008, 11:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Teens Pledge Allegiance To Obama...

I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to be reacting to here. Sure that demonstration was a little...unique, but it doesn't really spark any reactive commentary, so there's nothing here to either praise or criticize.


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Re: Teens Pledge Allegiance To Obama...

Are they informed? Candidly, I don't think many people are as informed as they think they are. These kids are believing what an adult (teacher, parent, minister, etc.) have told them to believe. Not to even mention that they can't vote. So what does it really matter in the long haul.

I'm with Dak - reminds me of the Hitler youth.
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Re: Teens Pledge Allegiance To Obama...

Hitler youth actually was more capable,widespread,etc.

This is just a group of people who believe Obama is the answer to everything, and probably just because he's black and so are they. I'd be surprised if they knew much more about him than the color of his skin.
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Hitler youth actually was more capable,widespread,etc.

This is just a group of people who believe Obama is the answer to everything, and probably just because he's black and so are they. I'd be surprised if they knew much more about him than the color of his skin.
I absolutely agree with that.
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Are they informed? Candidly, I don't think many people are as informed as they think they are. These kids are believing what an adult (teacher, parent, minister, etc.) have told them to believe.
...then how exactly would you define "informed"? Possessing knowledge? Are they not possessing knowledge?

And ironically, you're doing the same thing you're criticizing them of doing. You've apparently been trained to assume that when you see a demonstration like this, that the participants can't be doing what they're doing out of their own conviction, but that they must have been persuaded by an authority figure. I'm not saying that isn't what happened, but it's fallacious of you to present that as the only possibility.

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Not to even mention that they can't vote. So what does it really matter in the long haul.
What does it matter? So for people who can't vote, their opinions don't matter? Wake up and smell the frappuccino. You don't think demonstrations like this influence the people who can vote? I've heard countless stories of parents being told about Barack Obama by their children (true story: I was walking out of McDonald's the other day, and I heard this little boy who couldn't have been more that 8 years old ask his mom, "Did you hear on the news about what Obama wants to do with taxes?" I don't think I even knew who the president was when I was his age).

Anyway, going back to why people who can't vote still matter: you don't think the fact that the majority of the rest of the world likes Obama more has any bearing on the outcome of the election? Obviously, citizens of other countries can't vote in our election, but it's the support abroad in general that contributes to our perceptions of the candidates.

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lol, did you actually watch the damn video? Did you have your volume up? They blatantly listed a bunch qualities they like about Obama, and none of them had anything to do with skin color.

But this type of rhetoric is what has become typical of the anti-Obama coalition; just attribute his success to his skin color, because:

1. Black people have always done great in presidential elections...

2. It's grossly improbable that people might genuinely just agree with Obama's policies...
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...then how exactly would you define "informed"? Possessing knowledge? Are they not possessing knowledge?

And ironically, you're doing the same thing you're criticizing them of doing. You've apparently been trained to assume that when you see a demonstration like this, that the participants can't be doing what they're doing out of their own conviction, but that they must have been persuaded by an authority figure. I'm not saying that isn't what happened, but it's fallacious of you to present that as the only possibility.

What does it matter? So for people who can't vote, their opinions don't matter? Wake up and smell the frappuccino. You don't think demonstrations like this influence the people who can vote? I've heard countless stories of parents being told about Barack Obama by their children (true story: I was walking out of McDonald's the other day, and I heard this little boy who couldn't have been more that 8 years old ask his mom, "Did you hear on the news about what Obama wants to do with taxes?" I don't think I even knew who the president was when I was his age).

Anyway, going back to why people who can't vote still matter: you don't think the fact that the majority of the rest of the world likes Obama more has any bearing on the outcome of the election? Obviously, citizens of other countries can't vote in our election, but it's the support abroad in general that contributes to our perceptions of the candidates.



lol, did you actually watch the damn video? Did you have your volume up? They blatantly listed a bunch qualities they like about Obama, and none of them had anything to do with skin color.

But this type of rhetoric is what has become typical of the anti-Obama coalition; just attribute his success to his skin color, because:

1. Black people have always done great in presidential elections...

2. It's grossly improbable that people might genuinely just agree with Obama's policies...

His qualities? That's common knowledge, and they only listed the basic facts heavily advertised and endorsed.

I'm sure plenty of people agree with him. Plenty of people agreed with Bush. Plenty of people agreed with Hitler.

Am I saying I agree with Hitler or Bush and am putting Obama in their categories which are both different as it is? No. I'm putting the voting masses in the same category.

Yes, I obviously realize that people aren't just voting for Obama due to his skin colour, but a great deal of black youth probably are. That's a probable assumption. If you think otherwise, doesn't make it any more or less right.

Anti-Obama? I don't recall ever stating who I was for or against.

Obama would not be faring so well at all if it was not about his timing, previous candidacy, those he's running against, etc. If you put Obama on after the second term of Bush or before the 2001 elections, he would not have done so well at all.

Once more, not associating the two for what they stand for, as both are very different..But look at how Hitler was brought to popularity. Capitalizing. Saying what needed to be said to the masses who wanted to hear it. Granted, there is no Reichstag fire, or half the other things Hitler had going for him..But the basic logic is the same. It's exactly how Bush also managed to have the highest approval rating, which of course, later became the lowest.

I do however, agree a bit with you. By speaking out and influencing the youth; he can achieve a greater success.

And by saying all Anti-Obama rants/ranters sound the same; You also need to realize that all Pro-Obama ranters sound the same.


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