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Race & Politics
While sitting through a remarkably boring anthropology class earlier, I was trolling through CNNPolitics.com and found an article that rekindled one of my biggest gripes about this country:
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Race could play big role in election, poll suggests
Story Highlights
Racial prejudices could cost Sen. Barack Obama 6 percentage points, poll suggests
Poll: Forty percent of white Americans have at least a partly negative view of blacks
Experts point out that it's hard to quantify racial attitudes
Democrats typically get close to 90 percent of the African-American vote
(CNN) -- A new study that surveyed racial attitudes suggests that racial prejudices could tip the balance in the upcoming presidential election.
If there were no racial prejudice among voters, Sen. Barack Obama would receive about 6 percentage points more support, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll, designed in partnership with Stanford University.
The results suggest that 40 percent of white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, including more than a third of white Democrats and independents. A small percentage of voters -- 2.5 percent of those surveyed -- said they may turn away from Obama because of his race.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey also indicates that race could play a big role in November. Asked if race would be a factor in their vote, 37 percent of respondents said yes. But of that group, many are Republicans who are not likely to vote for any Democrat, and some are Democrats who may vote for Obama because of his race.
Of the 8 percent of Democrats who told CNN they plan to vote for Obama's GOP rival, Sen. John McCain, half said race was a factor.
The survey, conducted August 29-31, questioned 1,031 people and has a sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
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"The hardest thing in the world for pollsters to poll for, with the exception of sexual behavior, is racial attitudes and how it affects behavior," said Walter Shapiro, Washington bureau chief for Salon.com. Shapiro said while people might say things differently off the record, racial issues cannot easily be quantified.
The pollsters for the AP/Yahoo survey used techniques that they thought would be more likely to lead to honest results -- such as conducting the poll online and using subtle methods and formulas to calculate racial attitudes.
That study also suggests that the number of people who may turn away from To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. because of his race could be larger than what the margin of victory was in the 2004 election.
Jeff Johnson, host of BET's "The Truth With Jeff Johnson," said, "I think there is a concern clearly about the number of people who will vote based on race.
"But I agree -- how you quantify that number, I think, is very difficult."
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Johnson said one misconception is that racial prejudices are unique to conservatives or people in "Middle America."
"There are liberals also in many cases that are racist. I don't think we know yet how it's going to play out," he said.
In an interview that aired Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes," Obama said while some people might not vote for him because he is black, others might vote for him just because he is.
"Are there going to be some people who don't vote for me because I'm black? Of course. There are probably some African-Americans who are voting for me because I'm black or maybe others just inspired by the idea of breaking new ground, and so I think all that's a wash," he said.
Democrats, however, typically get close to 90 percent of the African-American vote anyway.
Salon.com's Shapiro said Democrats can work on increasing turnout among black voters but that it will be hard to make gains on the percentages they already see.
Johnson said he thinks race will matter, and the best way for Obama to balance out any negative effect is to just stay on message.
"I don't know if I believe it's going to be a wash. I think it's going to matter. This To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. is extremely close, and so every single demographic and every single point is going to count," he said.
"I think he has to speak to the issues of people in Middle America, and by that, it can counterbalance some of these racial issues."
For those not wishing to read through that lengthy article, here's a summary: this country is still unbelievably racist.
It really is ridiculous. People will straight up admit (at least to pollsters) that the color of a candidate's skin will actually affect which lever they pull in the voting booth. I find this not only appalling, but immensely ignorant.
I think this issue of race, along with the plurality of former Clinton supporters now backing McCain, shows how little people actually care about this country. Even between two candidates who politically could not be any further from each other, people are willing to completely ignore the issues by voting against a candidate over some of the most trivial shit imaginable (compared to the major issues that actually divide the two candidates--I mean, there's a fucking reason Obama and McCain aren't running mates...) This is a presidential election, not a reality TV show. It's not a talent show or a soccer match. Our lives and our standard of living will actually be affected by whoever wins this. To commit to one candidate, or rule out another candidate based solely on something like skin color or perceived "sexism" from the other party, is not only socially irresponsible, it's at its core an example of willful ignorance.
Voting for Barack Obama because he's black is just about as naive as voting against him because he's not white.
In an election this important, it really is disappointing to me that that so many Americans are going to let something as meaningless as skin color influence their votes. Of all the bullshit distractions that have been thrown into the mix so far, to think that freaking skin color could be a deciding factor makes me feel embarrassed to be an American. That's right, I'm embarrassed to even be identified with people who think like that. I'm embarrassed because someone has to be. These people don't have the decency in them to be ashamed of themselves, or even the intelligence to realize how fault-founded, illogical, and bigoted their worldviews actually are.
It happens everywhere, Canada is the same, no affense to Shaun here because I know he is part native but the vast majority of Canadians would not vote for a native PM based solely on the fact that he is native.
It would most likely be the same in England with Muslims. (though I could be way off base on that one and if I am sorry)
We aren't as advanced socially as we like to think.
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Re: Race & Politics
Well, no offense to Canada or the U.K., but considering how much influence the U.S. has on pretty much every part of the globe, I (previously) would have trusted that Americans would at least temporarily turn off their bigotry switches long enough to actually examine the issues, once they consider how important their votes are.
It's not as if I was under the illusion that we were socially advanced (because the rampant stupidity and mental atrophy flowing through contemporary American society is just as apparent as it ever has been), I just believed that this was a decision so important that there was no way such a large portion of the country could let something as unimportant and irrelevant as skin color actually influence who they vote for. Call me optimistic, but I honestly didn't think that many people could be THAT stupid.
I'm voting for McCain cuz I think Palin is Hott.... does that make me a moron To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I'm voting for McCain cuz I think Palin is Hott.... does that make me a moron To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Your voting for a pro-2nd Amendment rights guy?
I though you were totally against guns?
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I'm voting for McCain cuz I think Palin is Hott.... does that make me a moron To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
It's a well known fact that blacks have ruined everything they have touched though. forget all this bullshit about equal rights, stereotypes exist for a reason and we dont need obama in office. thats that. call me a racist all you want, idc.
because the white man created this.
i won't call you racist, but i will call you fucking retarded lol.
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wait are you saying Magic Johnson is black, has AIDS and has it better than ME?
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