Tyler Durden

WC Hall Of Famer

Even just a generation ago men were largely the breadwinners and were expected to provide and protect for their families.

Women were "expected" to be mothers, carers and nuturers as well as being responsible for all domestic tasks.

Whether this was right or wrong men and women clearly knew their roles and most were (for many many generations) comfortable in them (or at least acted as though they were!)

Now the spectrum of behaviour and roles has widened and men and women should be equal in all fields, something I generally agree with. Yet rather than get the best of both worlds it seems we have the worst of both worlds.

Men have to not only have a career but be sensitive and be an equal parent. There is now a plethora of male creams and grooming products, with hair removal or restoration as well as plastic surgery becoming more and more common.

Women are failures if they are just housewives, they still have to be housewives of course and carers mothers but now they also have to have a successful and fulfilling career be able to drink 8 pints a night and look like a model at all times.

It's percieved to be a weakness to feel safe and secure in the arms of a strong charactered man, now you have to feel equal to them.

Men and Women are surely complimentary but are their strengths and weaknesses are different? Should that be recognised without doing down either sex or transferring power from sex over another?

At the moment the 'advertised' ideal for men and women is so unrealistic is it any wonder so many relationships break down and there is an underlying feeling of inadequacy in so many.

Your thoughts.........???

Oh and I don't believe any of that crap!!

Griff0rd

I think all you really have to do is look at nature. In most areas of nature it is the female who is the nurturer and the male who is dominant. Biblically it says that men are the heads of the household and "dominant", but at the sametime we are to love our wives as we love ourselves putting no other but God before them.

Personally I think that we are degressing further away from what we are supposed to be. I am all about treating everyone equally, but I follow the Bible as much as I can in my thoughts and my ways of life and it is very clear on this subject. I also think that equal rights is used as en excuse to gain the an advantage over other groups by those who can "justify" using it.

AS far as the hair products and all that crap being more prominent for men, you can blame that on our society as a whole. I think it is safe to say that vanity is at an all time high and that we are looking way too much into the appearance of things (including people) instead of the substance. It really scares me looking back and seeing how much things have changed over the last 20 years and then knowing it has that much more time to either get worse or better... And with the way we are going it won't be the later of the two.

I believe that the man is the head of the household, but it is not supposed to be a dictatorship, but instead more of a democracy. The man is supposed to be the leader of the household not dictator, but I do believe there are things meant for each seperate sex, and things to be shared.

Jayman

S-Mod & WC Hall Of Famer

Women should KNOW THIER ROLE...SHUT THEIR MOUTH.......





....and make me a sandwich. MMmm

And now, here it is...your moment of Carlin (12/3/2008)

Violent American movies like Die Hard, Terminator, and Lethal Weapon do very well in places like Canada, Japan, and Europe. Very well. Yet these countries do not have nearly the violence of the United States. In 1989, in all of Japan, with a population of 150 million, there were 754 murders. In New York City that year, with a population of only 7.5 million, there were 2,300. It's bred in the bone. Movies and television don't make you violent; all they do is channel the violence more creatively.

Dakstang

WC's Resident Redneck

I think the a lot of the problems we see in the world today with kids are due to the fact that Mother's work outside the home and don't spend enough time with the kids. Another contributing factor is Fathers who put their job before there family.

I personally would like to have a traditional style family when I finally do settle down. My Mother was a housewife and I think that me and all my siblings are better off for it.

Jackie Pies

I don't think I fit either sex role and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of women felt that way.
As we girls grow up, we're exposed to a lot of contradiction. I'm sure boys can claim the same thing these days w/ all this metrosexual crap that Ty-Dog brought up.
I was raised w/ a shit load of Barbies, a plastic kitchen set, dolls that look like babies, etc - but at the same time told that I'd need to work hard in school to get a good job and that I need to earn as much money as possible so I can be prepared for life and to be happy.

I don't want kids, I don't really care about marriage, I want a job to keep me challenged and busy so I don't sit around a house going insane - but at the same time I have a lot of trouble going in full time.
I like cooking often, but I don't want to do it everyday and I don't want to start cooking when I get home from work b/c by then I end up eating later than I like (it's not really that I'm too tired, yet). And I do not clean.
I want a man for sex and to feel protected from time to time and just someone to talk to who will also challenge me and keep my mind sane.

I'd really just like to go to work 3 or 4 days a week for 6 or so hours and spend the other 3 or 4 days at home w/ a smoke, a box of goldfish crackers and a fun video game / movie.
Addiction is such a problem...

Gigglypuff

I hate how things are today. On one hand, its wildly accepted that a woman doesnt need a man to survive on her own, and thats the life Im living at the moment. She can be independant and not need to be protected by a man - which is true.

But then, on the other hand, there are people asking me when Im gonna settle down with a nice man and have babies! Im 25 for gods sake, i think they all think im gonna die in the next 5 years and must do it right now before i lose my chance. I feel like a younger Bridget Jones in a way, and Ive only been single for 6 months. I know that if I didnt 'settle down' there would be a lot of people who would look at me with pity and thats the thing that bugs me today.

There are 2 contradicting ideals - that a woman should be equal to the man but be independant of him, but that in the end we should give in to it and have his babies and stay at home to raise them. Talk about mixed messages.

molebeing

I think the ways of antiquity would be best, and what I mean by that is that women take care of the household, clean it, cook and take care of the children. Alot of women sadly today do not know how to do most of these things but instead take on the role of an "independent" and view being a housewife "degrading" but what I wish to ask them is what is so degrading about being a housewife? I view it as a most important part of the family, women were given breasts and a womb for a reason and it's proven that in general women can multi task much easier than men can.

But the modern women in general cares about nothing more than shopping for clothes and trying to doll themselves up with makeup in desperate attempts to make themselves look attractive. They dress in revealing clothing but yet get angered when a man treats them like a whore. I believe that alot of women today reduce themselves to nothing more than mere sex objects.

Before you call me a sexist pig make sure to read my post carefully, I love women and I could not survive without them obviously but alot of women today I find to be disgusting and I'm not speaking to any of the women here on the board personally, just in general to the entire populace.

Jackie Pies

I love being a sex object - you bastard.

Jackie Pies

Womyn just want a little attention from you jerks - go home, wait for her to get home from her job that should pay better than yours but probably doesn't, and for her to cook your selfish dinner, tie her up, and give her a nice fake raping with lots of oral on your part. Hey, we go down on you all the time - you selfish fuckhead.
Then go back to falling asleep while watching tv while she cleans up the kitchen from the dinner you griped about. Repeat.
Eat it. *




* Jackie could care less what you do when you get home from work. She already won.

Jackie Pies

Jayman knows what I's talking about