This is a discussion on Gay actors? within the General Discussion forums, part of the Non Wrestling Forums category; I was flipping through the channels the other night and ended up on the O'reilly factor. They were having a ...
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I was flipping through the channels the other night and ended up on the O'reilly factor. They were having a panel discussion on whether or not a gay actor could play a straight character in a movie. Here is some transcript from the discussion from foxnews.com
The people in the discussion were Actor Harry Hamlin who says playing a gay character in a movie in 1982 hurt is career, and also Actor and Producer Tab Hunter.
O'REILLY: But I don't think a gay leading man could play a heterosexual leading man. I don't think so, a real gay guy.
HUNTER: Oh, please. Oh, God.
O'REILLY: Name one. Name one heterosexual leading man who can play — who's really gay and get away with it.
HUNTER: What about Heath Ledger? I mean...
O'REILLY: He's not gay.
HUNTER: No, but he plays a wonderful...
O'REILLY: But I'm telling you, it's really.
HUNTER: But it's all about acting. That's what it's about. You view yourself as a human being.
O'REILLY: I don't know. Mr. Hamlin, do you agree with me that an outwardly gay actor, say — I'm not going to name names. I don't know them. I don't know.
HUNTER: I don't either.
O'REILLY: But if everybody knows somebody is gay and then they put him opposite Jennifer Aniston in a romantic comedy, it's not going to go.
HAMLIN: I think audiences more than likely would resist that, even to this day.
O'REILLY: They would.
HAMLIN: I hate to say that, but I have a feeling we're not ready for that yet.
HUNTER: I don't know. I just don't know.
HAMLIN: I hope it was the other way, that Mr. Hunter was right, but you know, I have a feeling we're really not there yet. Maybe we will be in 10 years.
O'REILLY: No, trust me. It would not happen. Because people want to believe what they see on the screen.
HUNTER: Not that they believe what they see on the screen. They want to believe what they want to believe.
O'REILLY: But they want to believe that a Tab Hunter and a Harry Hamlin are actually romancing the girl.
HUNTER: But you are.
O'REILLY: But you're not if you're really gay.
HUNTER: But it's all Hollywood. It's all make believe anyway. It's all a lot of B.S., as you know.
O'REILLY: Go ahead, Mr. Hamlin.
HAMLIN: I believed that, too, when I made "Making Love." And I'm an actor, a repertory theater actor. I played this role, thinking, well, I'm just playing a guy, I'm playing a role, and I'll be able to get away with this. People won't confuse me with the person that I'm playing.
It's so weird that when you play a role that has a different sexual orientation, they seem to cross over, and they don't get it. You could play an ax murderer or you could play a rapist or whatever and get away with that, but for some reason when you cross the sexual boundary, it makes a difference.
O'REILLY: I'm with you.
HUNTER: That is a good point because they do associate you, though, basically with what you play on the screen. I mean, they do.
O'REILLY: They do.
HUNTER: They do.
O'REILLY: And they want to believe it. They want to believe it. But we are in a different world. And Ledger and Gyllenhaal aren't going to be hurt, I don't think. I think that picture will win.
HUNTER: They had wonderful performances.
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So what do you think? Would people be accepting of a gay man playing a straight leading man?
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I don't even really understand the question, I guess. It sounds like another lame attempt for O'Reilly to try and bash minorities or something. When is that guy going to grow a pair and kill himself?
The thing is, there really hasn't been many openly gay actors so this question becomes impossible to answer. I absolutely see no reason why a great actor, who was openly gay, couldn't play a straight role. A good actor can play any role, period. End of story.
In theatre a lot of actors are gay and it's never a problem. However, most people who watch theatre and know the actors aren't the same morons who are watching American films.
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Wasn't there a thing in that movie "My best friend's wedding" where the openly gay actor, Rupert Everett, tried to play a straight guy to make her ex jealous.
I don't see any limitations on characters based on a person's real life style.
If the person is talented enough you should accept that protrayl of that character for what it is and not that you're watching a gay man/woman.
It's all about that person's talent and ability to draw you into the performance.
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Wasn't there a thing in that movie "My best friend's wedding" where the openly gay actor, Rupert Everett, tried to play a straight guy to make her ex jealous.
I don't see any limitations on characters based on a person's real life style.
If the person is talented enough you should accept that protrayl of that character for what it is and not that you're watching a gay man/woman.
It's all about that person's talent and ability to draw you into the performance.
Exactly. If the actor is good, you'll forget all about the celebrity inside information and be drawn into the character.
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Yeah I don't get this at all. If Heath Ledger, Jake Gyllenhaal and Joseph Gordon-Levitt can all play gay characters--and get praised beyond belief for it--why wouldn't it work the other way around.
I don't think it makes a difference either. O'reilly seemed to be trying to say that a movie that has an openly gay actor playing a straight character would not succeed. Like people would not go and see the movie just because the leading man was a gay man playing a straight character. It should not make a difference and I don't think that would have a bearing on the overall success of the movie either way.
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It's a little bit like the old argument of whether an American sports star, particular one on a team, could be openly gay, and how teammates and fans would react.
The question was more of could an openly gay actor play a romantic leading man. Would the audience buy a guy they know is gay trying to get with a woman. As an aspiring actor, if the actor is good, I don't see the problem. But, a lot of people have a thing about openly gay public figures.
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