Kansas, you silly bastard

Jackie Pies

Ok, let’s compare Pennsylvania:

Evolution Slate Outpolls Rivals

By LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Published: November 9, 2005

All eight members up for re-election to the Pennsylvania school board that had been sued for introducing the teaching of intelligent design as an alternative to evolution in biology class were swept out of office yesterday by a slate of challengers who campaigned against the intelligent design policy.

Among the losing incumbents on the Dover, Pa., board were two members who testified in favor of the intelligent design policy at a recently concluded federal trial on the Dover policy: the chairwoman, Sheila Harkins, and Alan Bonsell.

The election results were a repudiation of the first school district in the nation to order the introduction of intelligent design in a science class curriculum. The policy was the subject of a trial in Federal District Court that ended last Friday. A verdict by Judge John E. Jones III is expected by early January.



w/ my stupid state, Kansas:

Kansas Board Approves Challenges to Evolution

By JODI WILGOREN

Published: November 9, 2005

TOPEKA, Kan., Nov. 8 - The fiercely split Kansas Board of Education voted 6 to 4 on Tuesday to adopt new science standards that are the most far-reaching in the nation in challenging Darwin's theory of evolution in the classroom.

The standards move beyond the broad mandate for critical analysis of evolution that four other states have established in recent years, by recommending that schools teach specific points that doubters of evolution use to undermine its primacy in science education.

Among the most controversial changes was a redefinition of science itself, so that it would not be explicitly limited to natural explanations.

The vote was a watershed victory for the emerging movement of intelligent design, which posits that nature alone cannot explain life's complexity. John G. West of the Discovery Institute, a conservative research organization that promotes intelligent design, said Kansas now had "the best science standards in the nation."

The vote came six years after Kansas shocked the scientific and political world by stripping its curriculum standards of virtually any mention of evolution, a move reversed in 2001 after voters ousted several conservative members of the education board.




So Pennsylvania gets rid of ID, and just a few years after KS got rid of the dickheads who tried to ban evolution here, we vote ID right back in. The only good thing is the standards are not mandatory but they will do state tests. And this doesn’t start till 2007, so maybe we can vote these new whackjobs off the board in the 2006 election.

Mr. Kennedy

What the hell is John West talking about? ID makes as much sense as fairy tales, IMO Kansas took a step backwards in science standards. I also read that now when schools talk about evolution in Kansas they also have to mention how it might be incorrect. :alien1:

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Dakstang

WC's Resident Redneck

They should have to mention that it it might be incorrect since it is still just a theory.

*somewhere Miakal just had a stroke since I did not say "Scientific Theory".*

Miakal

hahahahaha.

It's a scientific theory Dak. Intelligent design is just a theory. Thus, a lack of science eliminates it from the science class room.

Dakstang

WC's Resident Redneck

I know your views. But Science means nothing to me. A theory is theory. You can make anything look true if you manipulate evidence.

Miakal

And Intelligent Design has no evidence, you can't even make it up.

Dakstang

WC's Resident Redneck

Yeah, it does. Some just choose not to accept it.

Mr. Kennedy

What evidence Dak? No respected scientist believes in ID and the only people supporting the idea are realigious zealots who won't stop untill everything believes that everything was created by a "god" rather than evolving like we have evidence of.

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Dakstang

WC's Resident Redneck

Well there are quite a few things such as artifacts and things like that with reference to Jesus dating way back. I do not pretend to be a specialist on this topic so I can't state specific items. My whole argument is not really based on this anyway. My argument is why to believe a scientist? Could the evidence not be maipulated by somone with an agenda? The possibility is there so I will never accept Evolution as being the truth.

Why should I care what a scientist believes? They have been wrong before.

Miakal

Dak, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence supporting evolution. There's been a handful of scientists who have created "scientific discoveries" but that shouldn't be overshadowed by the hundreds upon hundreds of real evidence that has been discovered.

Fossils, anatomy, the way the contintents are located, the way flowers grow and survive, etc, etc, etc, etc.

And religion has never been wrong? A lot of religious "fact" has been proven incorrect. Furthermore, there is no evidence linking Jesus and the history of man together. Not at all.