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Old 10-05-2004, 10:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who won the VP debate?

Cheney won, barely.

It was boring.

Neither answered the questions.

Edwards was repetitive.

Edwards had an amazing "conclusion"

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Old 10-05-2004, 11:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I dunno, I don't think anyone won it. It was real boring. If it were wrestling I would give it to Edwards for looking better while doing his thing. He also had me laughing when he kept saying Kerry's name when he wasn't suppose to use his name in his response.

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Old 10-05-2004, 11:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I didn't see all of it. I missed the beginning and was flipping back and forth between the baseball, but from what I saw, Cheney absolutely smoked him. Edwards lost that debate at least as badly, and probably worse, than Bush lost the debate to Kerry.
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I didn't see all of it. I missed the beginning and was flipping back and forth between the baseball, but from what I saw, Cheney absolutely smoked him. Edwards lost that debate at least as badly, and probably worse, than Bush lost the debate to Kerry.
I bet you were flipping channels when it was Edwards time to talk.

It was no way a "smoking" of any sorts. Cheney did look better. He came off with better responses. Edwards had some good ones as well, though.

Cheney didn't win nearly as big as Kerry did, and I don't think Kerry won by a massive margin.

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Old 10-05-2004, 11:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I watched about two minutes of it before I decided that I was bored to tears. Besides, the VPs won't suade my vote.

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Old 10-06-2004, 12:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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the VPs won't suade my vote.
Whoa, is that a word?
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Old 10-06-2004, 12:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I bet you were flipping channels when it was Edwards time to talk.
And I would take that bet because you are wrong.

I would watch about 15 minutes of debate, then watch a couple minutes of the game, then switch back. I saw most of it, and it was definately a decisive victory. Edwards just didn't come prepared, and Cheney did. I think he expected Cheney to be defensive like Bush was in his debate, so he wasn't prepared for the attacks Cheney presented and he had no retort.

Funny thing actually happened after the debate. John Edwards was talking to a group of his supporters, and he was saying that in response to Cheney's accusation that they'd never met, that Cheney was wrong, that they had in fact met at some fundraising dinner, and a second time at the swearing in of a Senator. That was pretty dumb of Edwards, because in doing so he totally validated Cheney's point.
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Old 10-06-2004, 12:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Whoa, is that a word?
Yes, it is. Apparently the Dude isn't going to let the VP candidates turn his ballot card into the same material Elvis had his shoes made out of.
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Old 10-06-2004, 01:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I thought they both "won" in the sense that neither of them made any mistakes that I can see coming back to haunt them (like Kerry's "global test" phrasing or, well, uh, everything Bush did in last hour of the first debate).

I don't think there was any clear winner; I have a feeling the debate strengthened both campaigns. Cheney came across as knowledgeable and level headed, and that should help the republicans get back in stride after being shellshocked over the last few days. Edwards gained a lot because he had pretty much disappeared in the last few months, and now that he's managed to hold his own in a debate with a guy who's been around Washington for twenty years he looks more like someone who really could be president, and not just like some charming goof whose sole purpose is to give Kerry's campaign a personality.
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Old 10-06-2004, 01:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I didn't watch the whole thing, but from what I watched it looked like Cheney "won". Both sides seemed to keep changing subjects though.
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