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Old 06-28-2004, 03:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'll probably go see that, maybe at the travelling cinema that's sometimes inside the T in the Park campsite entertainment area (I think it's released on the 9th of July here, when I'm leaving).

I think Moore is very good at what he does. Yes, it's one sided, but so is Bush's administration, just as militantly so as Moore. It's a nice balance.

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Old 06-28-2004, 03:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Michael Moore is an extremist that’s for sure.

However, Conservatives have a ton of extremists who are producing an equal amount of slanted bullshit on their own.

The Conservatives had a TV Evangelist tell viewers that if they didn’t contribute money to the Republican campaign that God would strike him dead (unfortunately he never did).

Conservatives are the ones who spent nearly a billion dollars on a land deal to discover that Bill Clinton was getting a blowjob from a consenting woman.

Conservatives have accused Bill Clinton of killing one of his friends the day after he committed suicide.

Conservatives are making John Kerry look like a coward even after the fact he was shot, when Bush and Dick were never even in the military (who the fuck are they to call him a coward?).

This is extreme, folks. Is Michael Moore extreme, is he slanted? Of course he is.

But in a world where Fox News is Number one we should all relax and embrace it.

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Old 06-28-2004, 03:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Why would I pay to see this. I don't care what the f*ckin Democrats say. ANd you cannot tell me that they listen to Republicans, so no I don't f*ckin care. Plus it is a known fact that Moore makes half that sh*t up or just expands the lie even further. It shows how stupid people are if they actually pay to see this sh*t.
1."Why would I pay to see this. I don't care what the f*ckin Democrats say."

A prime example of why you're a typical, uninformed voter.

2."ANd you cannot tell me that they listen to Republicans, so no I don't f*ckin care"

Who the fuck are "they"? The hell are you on about?

3."Plus it is a known fact that Moore makes half that sh*t up or just expands the lie even further."

Christ, you're an idiot. Don't you think there would be legal recourse to be had by any party slighted by Moore's use of alleged non-facts? The man has a team of lawyers and fact checkers, but keep telling yourself it's all lies - it's a lot easier than thinking for yourself.

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Old 06-28-2004, 03:49 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I thought Bowling for Columbine was incredible.

I planned to see 9/11 on Saturday night but it was sold out.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:56 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Why would I pay to see this. I don't care what the f*ckin Democrats say. ANd you cannot tell me that they listen to Republicans, so no I don't f*ckin care. Plus it is a known fact that Moore makes half that sh*t up or just expands the lie even further. It shows how stupid people are if they actually pay to see this sh*t.
1."Why would I pay to see this. I don't care what the f*ckin Democrats say."

A prime example of why you're a typical, uninformed voter.

2."ANd you cannot tell me that they listen to Republicans, so no I don't f*ckin care"

Who the f**k are "they"? The hell are you on about?

3."Plus it is a known fact that Moore makes half that sh*t up or just expands the lie even further."

Christ, you're an idiot. Don't you think there would be legal recourse to be had by any party slighted by Moore's use of alleged non-facts? The man has a team of lawyers and fact checkers, but keep telling yourself it's all lies - it's a lot easier than thinking for yourself.

Next.
Well I hope the man has a few bodyguards. The CIA probably wants him dead.
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Who the f**k are "they"? The hell are you on about?
Democrats you fuckin moron. How hard was it to follow the post, jesus u are a stupid.

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Old 06-28-2004, 04:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Michael Moore is an extremist that’s for sure.
at least you admit that

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However, Conservatives have a ton of extremists who are producing an equal amount of slanted bullshit on their own.
Yes, but they do not go to the extremes of the Democrats. In Clinton's re-election year, you did not see tons of books coming out and movies about why they hate him.

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The Conservatives had a TV Evangelist tell viewers that if they didn’t contribute money to the Republican campaign that God would strike him dead (unfortunately he never did).
I would like to see proof of this.

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Conservatives are the ones who spent nearly a billion dollars on a land deal to discover that Bill Clinton was getting a blowjob from a consenting woman.
He should have admitted it. Plus by hearing what he said in his book it is a good thing they did, he is a sleazy asshole. " I did it because i could" , you don't see bush running around fuckin everything with a pussy

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Conservatives have accused Bill Clinton of killing one of his friends the day after he committed suicide.
clinton was probably the reason he commited suicide

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Conservatives are making John Kerry look like a coward even after the fact he was shot, when Bush and Dick were never even in the military (who the f**k are they to call him a coward?).
I have never once heard that, yes he is a coward and will not admit what side of the issue he is on. Fact. Why would you vote for someone who won't even take a stance on an issue. I'm definitely voting for that guy. At least Bush states what he supports and doesn't flip flop.

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his is extreme, folks. Is Michael Moore extreme, is he slanted? Of course he is.
that is fact. He also should not blame Bush about going to war with Iraq without looking at what his fellow Democrats said. Oh yes, let's forget the past because who cares, Clinton, Gore, and Kerry never said there were WMD's in Iraq. Bush was the only one.

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But in a world where Fox News is Number one we should all relax and embrace it.
Yes, because Fox News does state both sides of an argument if you do ever watch it. Unlike CNN where they just bash Bush all day long.

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Old 06-28-2004, 04:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I haven't seen it yet but will try and see it soon. I can't bring myself to pay for it though so I guess I'll have to buy a ticket to another movie and walk into this one.

Ben, Moore has actually been sued by several people for "Bowling for Columbine" and there are several websites available to expose his lies. bowlingfortruth.com is on I think.

I can't really bash this film yet since I haven't seen it, but judging by the main topics of the film and what I've read, I can tell I'm going to have a hard to stomaching this. Since I can't review it yet, here's a link to someone who can.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723

Christopher Hitchens is one of the best political writers I've ever encountered, and he sums up beautifully my sentiments regarding Moore in a much more eloquent fashion than I ever could. He's all the more interesting since he used to be a writer for The Nation. I highly encourage you all to check out the link. Especially those that think highly of Moore and/or this film.
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I don't care how much propaganda Moore dishes out, it's not gonna change the fact that I'm not voting for Kerry.
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:48 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Ben, Moore has actually been sued by several people for "Bowling for Columbine" and there are several websites available to expose his lies. bowlingfortruth.com is on I think.
He was sued by 1 person, the nutcase in Michigan who showed him the loaded gun in his bedroom. As far as this film goes, there hasn't been a single lawsuit filed against him. I'm not a huge Moore fan, I just think that this film is incredibly important and should be seen by anyone wanting to get a side of the story the U.S. media chooses not to show. What facts has he "made up"? The FACT that Bush was on vacation 42% of his first 8 months in office? The FACT that Bush couldn't be bothered to miss a photo-op upon finding out about 9/11? What pisses everyone off about this film is there's no argument to be made which can possibly defend Bush. This isn't a written document, there are no misquotes, it's a body of work caught on film that features Bush doing what he does best - backpeddle while trying to remember what much smarter individuals told him to say.
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