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Re: Do you have a problem with the Confederate flag?
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Originally Posted by Tommy Platinum
But surely if that is the main thing the flag is associated with, I have a right to have a problem with people using it?
Who said that is the main thing the flag is used for?
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Re: Do you have a problem with the Confederate flag?
That would be like me saying the American flag represents war because most people don't display it unless we are at war.
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Re: Do you have a problem with the Confederate flag?
I have trouble for people who find the flag racist and groups like the KKK and backwood rednecks are making the flag to be racist, I blame them sons of bitches for being like that. Either some people haven't been taught right by their parents or teachers, or did they join a group of offenders of the Confederate flag and spread how the whites were doing this and that to the blacks. It's mindblowing that the Confederacy and its history are being tarnished in a wrong way by offenders who has no or limited knowledge of the Confederacy.
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Re: Do you have a problem with the Confederate flag?
People that hate the Confederate flag because other people tell them it represents racism should form their own opinion and do some research before replying.
I'm a "Northerner", and have lived in Michigan all my life. So, if I was living here during the time when the Confederacy was going strong in the 19th century, I would have been part of the Union that opposed this group. However, asking me now in 2009 what my thoughts are on the Confederate flag being waved now? I do NOT consider it racist.
As Dak alluded to, the Confederacy was more for states right than it was for slavery. History books teach us that the main conflict between the North and the South was the issue of Slavery. That's what shows up primarily in print, but it really wasn't even one of the main issues.
The North believed the government should have the right to govern the states, while the South believed each individual state should govern itself without the nation's government stepping in. So, if you are asking me if I have a problem with the confederate flag, not really...probably because I wasn't even alive in the mid 1800's, so who's really to say what happened then?
There's a pretty decent chance that the reason people are waving it around nowadays is because of their racist beliefs, but back when it mattered, that wasn't the main cause.
Yes, I have a problem with racists, but no I do not have a problem with the Confederate flag.
Re: Do you have a problem with the Confederate flag?
I don't have any problem with the confederate flag. Hell, I have one hanging on my wall here in my room and I'm proud to have it up on my wall for all the neighbors to see through my window when it's open.
Slavery was such a minor issue in the Civil War and it's just bullshit how people are so ignorant about the flag. I mean, if you really think about it, the Confederate flag is no better than the American flag. Just look at all the terrible things we've done under the American flag. All the things we did to the Indians for example. Plus, slavery started under the American flag anyways so the precious American flag is not all pure from that. I consider the American flag to carry more hatred than the Confederate flag. If anything, the American flag should be viewed as racist and a flag of hate.
I just love how people think that Lincoln freed the slaves and that the Union was just complete anti-slavery. Lincoln didn't really care about slavery hardly at all, he just wanted the Union to remain as one.
It's a historical fact that the Confederate flag stood for States' rights. Long live the Confederacy!
Re: Do you have a problem with the Confederate flag?
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Originally Posted by Internet God
I don't have any problem with the confederate flag. Hell, I have one hanging on my wall here in my room and I'm proud to have it up on my wall for all the neighbors to see through my window when it's open.
Slavery was such a minor issue in the Civil War and it's just bullshit how people are so ignorant about the flag. I mean, if you really think about it, the Confederate flag is no better than the American flag. Just look at all the terrible things we've done under the American flag. All the things we did to the Indians for example. Plus, slavery started under the American flag anyways so the precious American flag is not all pure from that. I consider the American flag to carry more hatred than the Confederate flag. If anything, the American flag should be viewed as racist and a flag of hate.
I just love how people think that Lincoln freed the slaves and that the Union was just complete anti-slavery. Lincoln didn't really care about slavery hardly at all, he just wanted the Union to remain as one.
It's a historical fact that the Confederate flag stood for States' rights. Long live the Confederacy!
Good insight, I never even really thought about that which is a bit surprising considering I have Cherokee in me and my mom's really passionate about it. But yeah, I have no problem with any flag or any symbol. Hell, the swastika has nothing to do with exterminating Jews or any of the Nazi's agenda and look at what it has become because Germany used it as a symbol of hate. As long as it's used as a symbol of pride and heritage and not hate, I have no problem with it whatsoever.
Re: Do you have a problem with the Confederate flag?
I don't really have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with the flag itself, I have a problem with how some people demonstrate it. You have people who sit on their porch and have it (the flag) behind them who still hate black people and curse whenever they see one, and you have some people who have it hanging in their house behind glass, to show remembrance of the past and how they respect what their ancestors did. I have a problem with the first kind of people.