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Tbh I'm pretty sure when your born, you don't have a set sexual preference. I'm sure it comes to you later.
I agree, but people still don't choose to be gay (I know I didn't), it's something that develops though your upbringing, surroundings etc, at least that's what I think.....
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I agree, but people still don't choose to be gay (I know I didn't), it's something that develops though your upbringing, surroundings etc, at least that's what I think.....
I agree with this.
It is something that is developed.
Similar to the way people develop certain fetishes.
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They can come up with 'studies' to support any stance.
They came up with studies back in the 1930's that mariujuana was a very strong narcodic and made people lose their minds.
Doesn't mean it is true.
It doesn't, but it does not make it untrue either.
What makes it closer to truth is the techniques that they used and supporting journals.
Personally, I do not think it is developed through upbringing. Why? Well if that were true, there would be a lot more gay siblings. Think about it, what is the most influential body in the upbringing? The parent. So if the parent is the same to both children, then why don't we see only one of the children being gay?
It doesn't, but it does not make it untrue either.
What makes it closer to truth is the techniques that they used and supporting journals.
Personally, I do not think it is developed through upbringing. Why? Well if that were true, there would be a lot more gay siblings. Think about it, what is the most influential body in the upbringing? The parent. So if the parent is the same to both children, then why don't we see only one of the children being gay?
Because parents are not always the same to all their children. Parents typically have different relationships with their children. Maybe they spoil the first born more, maybe they spoil the youngest the more.
And parents are not the only thing to factor into this. During the sexual development years, (early teens) things kids are exposed to affects them quite profoundly. So something they see may plant the thought in their head.
I don't claim to know all the answers but I do theorize that people are not born gay just as people are not born murderers, child molesters, etc..
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No just saying that things can happen to make people be abnormal.
Something along the line influences them.
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Because parents are not always the same to all their children. Parents typically have different relationships with their children. Maybe they spoil the first born more, maybe they spoil the youngest the more.
And parents are not the only thing to factor into this. During the sexual development years, (early teens) things kids are exposed to affects them quite profoundly. So something they see may plant the thought in their head.
I don't claim to know all the answers but I do theorize that people are not born gay just as people are not born murderers, child molesters, etc..
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No just saying that things can happen to make people be abnormal.
Something along the line influences them.
Of course some parents have different relationships with their children. But you have to think of all of the parents out there, there have to be many that also bring them up rather similarly. Especially if their around the same age. So no, not all gays would have a brother or sister that is also gay, but it would be a fair number. Even if it was 1 in 5. But apparently, it seems like it never happens.
For upbringing to be a factor, there would have to be a good positive correlation between certain activities and homosexuality.
And yes, I believe that child molesters are born that way too. The only difference is they should not act on their urge, because their urges harm others. Homosexuality does not harm people.
And why would anyone choose to be gay? If that were true, then why do so many people hide it?
And why would anyone choose to be gay? If that were true, then why do so many people hide it?
I never said they choose to be gay.
I said that they are exposed to something in their key development years that conditions them to be that way. How do you think people develop fetishes? Some people prefer blondes, some prefer brunettes, etc..
That happens because of something they were exposed to in their key development years.
People are not hard wired when they are born to be attracted to a certain type of person. They develop that.
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I said that they are exposed to something in their key development years that conditions them to be that way. How do you think people develop fetishes? Some people prefer blondes, some prefer brunettes, etc..
That happens because of something they were exposed to in their key development years.
People are not hard wired when they are born to be attracted to a certain type of person. They develop that.
I know you did not say that they choose to be gay. I was just making that broad statement to address others.
Blondes and brunettes are trivial. That is something that could be developed. But the sex drive of a person is something we could probably agree that you are born with. With the exception of pills and nutrition, some people have a far greater sex drive than others. The sex drive will most likely cause them to have more fetishes than others, because plain old sex is not enough to satisfy their drive.
This is my opinion on this issue (if I were for gay marriage: extra or equal rights).
Gay marriages shouldn't have extra rights because it would be an unfair advantage to straight couples that gays get extra rights and straights don't. Every marriage should be equal to everyone even if a white marries an oriental person or a black person marries a puerto-rican any race, color, creed, religion, or whatever. No one should get a upper advantage of another.
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This is my opinion on this issue (if I were for gay marriage: extra or equal rights).
Gay marriages shouldn't have extra rights because it would be an unfair advantage to straight couples that gays get extra rights and straights don't. Every marriage should be equal to everyone even if a white marries an oriental person or a black person marries a puerto-rican any race, color, creed, religion, or whatever. No one should get a upper advantage of another.
I think the argument presented in the first post is not that gays would get extra rights as in special divorces or estates or taxation. It is that gay marriage can be perceived as giving them more rights than straights, because they will now have the choice to marry someone from the same sex including the opposite sex.
Kind of silly, because wouldn't allowing gay marriage give the same rights to straight people? They could marry someone from the opposite sex too.
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