[Dakstang]

Originally Posted by Blitz

I wonder if they'll ever take Dak's guns away.

That is a very big possibility. Even though I own no semi-automatic weapons or anything like that.

[Dakstang]

This comes from zogby.com

New National Abortion Poll Shows Majority of Americans are Pro-Life


Polls are consistently showing that Americans are becoming more pro-life. A December poll conducted by Zogby International, a respected nonpartisan polling firm, confirms that, by a 53% to 36% margin, the public supports the statement, "Abortion destroys a human life and is manslaughter."
In December, pollster John Zogby teamed up with Brad O'Leary of the O'Leary Report to examine the cultural differences in states that elected George W. Bush as president in 2000 and those that voted for Al Gore. The poll also contained questions relating to abortion.
As previous polls have shown, a strong majority of Republicans take a pro-life position, but so do a sizable number of Democrats.
Some 68 percent of Republicans agreed with the statement that abortion "destroys a human life and is manslaughter" while 43 percent of Democrats in the U.S. also agreed.
The Zogby poll also showed that Americans are more inclined to support "restrictions on abortion" compared to five or ten years ago.
According to the poll, 22 percent of Americans were more interested in abortion restrictions, while only 11 percent were less interested.
Sixty-six percent said their views on abortion restrictions were the same as they were five or ten years ago. Since polls have consistently shown considerable support for laws such as parental notification, informed consent, and unborn victims legislation, the Zogby poll confirms Americans are moving in the direction of ensuring that sensible limits are placed on legalized abortion.
Other recent polls also confirm a majority of Americans have a pro-life perspective.

[Slimdust]

It's simple really. If you arnt read to have a baby than have safe sex or dont have sex at all. If you are having a baby be responsible, dont killa innocent living thing. That should be easy enough even if you dont beleive.

[Quack Handle]

Originally Posted by Slim

It's simple really. If you arnt read to have a baby than have safe sex or dont have sex at all. If you are having a baby be responsible, dont killa innocent living thing. That should be easy enough even if you dont beleive.

So you MUST believe that even a raped woman who gets pregnant via this way, should have the baby. The baby is still innocent, she can have it adopted. Yes or no?

[Slimdust]

Yeah, if she doesent want the baby, put it up for adoption.

[Dakstang]

I believe in some rights to abortion for those that were raped, or when the mother's life was in danger. That is a completely different situation than terminating a healthy pregnancy, or using abortion as a form of birth control.

[Miakal]

To dak...

A) The last time I quoted Zogby's you told me you didn't believe in polls. So now you just believe in the ones that seem to be in you favor?
B) There's a great difference in placing restrictions on abortion and making a Constitutional ban. A lot of Democrats, including Bill and Hillary Clinton (the anti-christs), have pushed for restrictions on abortion.

CNN - 61 percent of those questioned were opposed to a constitutional amendment to ban abortion.
ABC - Fewer than two in 10 Americans support the Republican Party draft platform’s call for a ban on all abortions with no exceptions. Over 50% support legal abortion.
Womens News - 75 Percent of Women pro-choice
RCRC - Protestants, Jews, Catholics, Unitarians, and most religious organizations in the United States....pro-choice.

The only problem with polls, the only one, is that you have to understand the question that they asked.

I would also like to point out, one more time, that we do not know if it's life within the first few weeks or even months. No credible doctor would ever be able to confirm that. Most abortions in this country don't take place in the later stage, they take place in the first few weeks.

[Blitzkrieg]

If we can't believe in Zogby there's no God.

[Dakstang]

Originally Posted by Miakal

To dak...

A) The last time I quoted Zogby's you told me you didn't believe in polls. So now you just believe in the ones that seem to be in you favor?
B) There's a great difference in placing restrictions on abortion and making a Constitutional ban. A lot of Democrats, including Bill and Hillary Clinton (the anti-christs), have pushed for restrictions on abortion.

CNN - 61 percent of those questioned were opposed to a constitutional amendment to ban abortion.
ABC - Fewer than two in 10 Americans support the Republican Party draft platform’s call for a ban on all abortions with no exceptions. Over 50% support legal abortion.
Womens News - 75 Percent of Women pro-choice
RCRC - Protestants, Jews, Catholics, Unitarians, and most religious organizations in the United States....pro-choice.

The only problem with polls, the only one, is that you have to understand the question that they asked.

I would also like to point out, one more time, that we do not know if it's life within the first few weeks or even months. No credible doctor would ever be able to confirm that. Most abortions in this country don't take place in the later stage, they take place in the first few weeks.

To Miakal,

A) I don't really recall if I said I didn't believe polls, I think I said that I just don't really put much stock in them because there are many conflicting polls.

B) This part of the poll that I posted says nothing about restrictions on abortion but is rather talking about abortion itself:

Polls are consistently showing that Americans are becoming more pro-life. A December poll conducted by Zogby International, a respected nonpartisan polling firm, confirms that, by a 53% to 36% margin, the public supports the statement, "Abortion destroys a human life and is manslaughter."

And....

Some 68 percent of Republicans agreed with the statement that abortion "destroys a human life and is manslaughter" while 43 percent of Democrats in the U.S. also agreed.

Then later on it mentions about the restrictions, note that it says "The Zogby poll ALSO showed...." meaning that that was a seperate part of the poll.

The Zogby poll also showed that Americans are more inclined to support "restrictions on abortion" compared to five or ten years ago.
According to the poll, 22 percent of Americans were more interested in abortion restrictions, while only 11 percent were less interested.
Sixty-six percent said their views on abortion restrictions were the same as they were five or ten years ago. Since polls have consistently shown considerable support for laws such as parental notification, informed consent, and unborn victims legislation, the Zogby poll confirms Americans are moving in the direction of ensuring that sensible limits are placed on legalized abortion.
Other recent polls also confirm a majority of Americans have a pro-life perspective.

I would also like to point out one more time that it has been proven that fetuses in the early stage of development respond to pain. If a fetus can respond to pain, in my view it is a living thing.

[Slimdust]

To Slim,

You are awesome. Keep doing what your doing. Don't let the man keep you down. You are the shizit. I want to have your kids. I want to have them so bad I think I will get off this board right now and pretend I am your lover...