er...no, that wasn't the logic I was applying at all. It was merely a question of fact. You haven't legally been born until you have left the womb (and this is why I asked in the prompt if you consider this a moral question or a legal question, but you've kind of blurred the line here).

Simply answering your question of whether or not we consider someone alive when their heart starts beating: no, we don't (with we being the United States).